Hello campaign junkies. This is Mike Murphy. Imagine you're out on the campaign trail and you're

walking to a bar stuffed with the traveling show of American politics reporters candidate staff.

You pull up an empty bar stool. You turn and see sitting next to you and ready to talk politics.

Is David Axelrod, president Obama's fame political advisor and longtime political consultant.

And Mike Murphy, the brains behind John McCain's brilliant 2000 straight talk express campaign

and a veteran of what is it about a million campaigns of the campaign too many campaigns but all

fun including some campaigns one and lost against the great David Axelrod we've been friends for

a long time and we talk politics between ourselves about what's really going on on the telephone

or when we see each other then we thought maybe other people would like to hear these conversations

and so we got the idea for hacks on tap and the reason we're going to be watching the early

campaign and beyond so carefully is the process defines the candidates.

Yeah you know Mike I always thought that presidential campaigns were a little like NASA

in that you could be in the simulator you can write about it you can talk about it but unless

you've been up in orbit you don't really understand what a presidential campaign is the the G forces

and all the different challenges that you face and what you should take seriously and what you

should not we're going to talk about what's really going on what you don't really hear in the media

from people who've been there and seen it and know all the inside dope is going to be funny interesting

a reverent and once in a while we're even going to have a great guest a real hack who might even

have been elected to something so if you want to get the real inside ride on the campaign trail

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