Hey, pull up a chair. It's tax on tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

Murphy, let's set this up for everybody. I think between us, we have what 157 years of

campaign experience. Yeah, we need to be carbon dated in the campaign laboratory. We have

been at this a long time. We've been talking politics a long time. We have been, and by the

way, kudos on that Eisenhower campaign, but we've not only done campaigns, we've done presidential

campaigns. And my theory has always been that presidential campaigns are an animal unto

themselves that it's a little bit like NASA. You know, you can, you can roll around in the simulator,

but until you're in orbit and you understand the G forces of a presidential race, it's still a

bit of a mystery. So hopefully we can shed some light on this process in the next however many months.

I think part of what we're trying to do is let people know what it's like on the inside,

because there's such an avalanche of info and opinions and instant polls on the outside.

What is actually like in a campaign when you're navigating all this?

All right, so let's just dive in and try and make some sense of what happened last week. And

over the weekend, the Iowa poll, the Des Moines Register Iowa poll. Iowa poll now, it's

co-sponsored by CNN, but it's it is sort of a watershed event in presidential races in Iowa

when this register poll comes out. And what it said was that Joe Biden continues to lead with 24

percent Bernie Sanders at 16 Elizabeth Warren at 15 Pete Buttigieg at 14 and Kamala Harris at

seven. No one else above 2 percent. Biden's down a third from December. His enthusiasm raised as

people who say they're enthusiastic about their choice far below the other top tier candidates.

How do you interpret all that? Well, you know, this is the big gut wrenching poll because it's the

one taken most seriously. And although it's early, you know, we have a lot of campaign left to go.

It's the beginning. I call it the end of the first inning now. And I thought the most interesting

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