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Matter of Opinion

Introducing ‘The Argument’ With Jane Coaston

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2021

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

There are all kinds of arguments, many of them pretty unproductive. Either nobody listens, or nobody wins, or you go around in circles, or you bring up old baggage that should’ve stayed in storage. But the best arguments, and the ones I like to have, are the ones that make me think differently. They help inform my opinions, or challenge them. And they help me understand the people who have other points of view. Starting Feb. 24, I’ll be the new host of “The Argument.” Every week, people who disagree with one another will come together on the podcast to hash it out. I’ve reported for years on conservatism and the American right. I’ve talked to people from all points on the political spectrum, and I’ve heard a lot of “the other side doesn’t get it,” and “the other side is evil.” In my opinion, none of this productive. I want people to hear one another out, before writing them off. I think respectful, civil debate makes us all smarter. And I think for democracy to work, we need to listen, especially when we don’t agree. Things on the program might get awkward, and that’s the whole point. We’re going to have real conversations and real disagreement. To those of you who have been listening for years, I hope you’ll find this is still the place for respectful debate that opens minds. And to those of you tuning in for the first time, welcome. I’ll see you next Wednesday. Share your arguments with us: We want to hear what you’re arguing about with your family, your friends and your frenemies. Leave us a voice mail message at (347) 915-4324. We may use excerpts from your audio in a future episode. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Argument" at nytimes.com/the-argument, and you can find Jane on Twitter @janecoaston. “The Argument” is produced by Phoebe Lett, Elisa Gutierrez and Vishakha Darbha and edited by Alison Bruzek; fact-checking by Kate Sinclair; music and sound design by Isaac Jones.

Transcript

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0:00.0

There are all kinds of arguments.

0:02.5

Arguments where nobody listens.

0:04.8

The question is,

0:06.0

the question left,

0:07.5

would you shout out, man?

0:09.2

Arguments where nobody wins.

0:11.2

Well, I guess this is a case where we'll have to agree to disagree.

0:15.0

And arguments that lead to new arguments.

0:17.4

You never say thank you.

0:18.9

That's what the money is for.

0:20.4

But the best arguments,

0:22.4

and the ones I like to have,

0:24.3

are ones that make me think differently.

0:33.5

My name is Jane Kostin,

0:35.3

and I'm the new host of the argument,

0:37.1

where every week,

0:38.0

people who don't agree come together to hash it out.

0:41.3

Before I came here,

0:42.3

I was a reporter,

0:43.3

and my beat was conservatism in the American right.

0:46.0

I spent years talking to people

0:47.9

from all ends of the political spectrum.

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