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Matter of Opinion

From the Archives: Climate Change and Free College for All

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

This week we return to two of our favorite debates from “Arguments” past. First, a debate from Nov. 29, 2018, in which Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt debate climate change and how to deal with it. Then, the trio discuss whether public colleges should be tuition free, and if all student loan debt should be canceled, from the Dec. 5, 2019, episode, “Should College Be Free?” And finally, a return to that time Ross sang Lady Gaga.

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0:00.0

Hey listeners, I'm Phoebe Lett, one of the producers on the argument.

0:05.4

Our whole crew is cooking up an incredible relaunch of the show, keeping everything you

0:09.8

love about the argument and expanding the voices, ideas, and formats that you get to

0:14.5

hear.

0:15.9

We'll still be the place for respectful disagreement on the day's biggest issues, where people

0:21.4

don't just talk, they listen.

0:24.1

We'll have a new host at the helm, but our goal remains the same, that you leave each episode

0:28.4

better informed about your own position, about what the other side thinks, and how to

0:32.7

disagree without coming to blows.

0:35.4

While we work on new episodes, we wanted to share some favorites from the past couple

0:39.0

of years.

0:40.8

Listening back, some things stood out.

0:43.1

So much of what David, Michelle, and Ross have argued about is just as relevant today

0:47.2

as it was back then.

0:49.1

And that's despite all the change we've seen since we launched more than two years ago.

0:54.8

Next up, a debate from 2018 called, What do we do about climate change?

1:01.0

And by the way, I checked with Ross, and he says he's even more correct now than he

1:06.2

was back then.

1:08.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

1:12.4

I'm Ross Douthon.

1:13.4

I'm David Lee and Art, and this is The Argument.

1:20.5

This summer, I went to Portland, Oregon for a few days to visit family, but instead of

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