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22-year-old fast bowler, Sunny Baker could be the next big thing and could be in line for an England debut.

He's been called up for squads as part of England's Whiteball series against South Africa

and Ireland in September. He's impressed in the 100 this year for Manchester Originals as well,

celebrating his England call up with a hat trick as his side beat Northern Superchargers at Old

Trafford on Sunday. He's been sitting down for an in-depth interview with BBC cricket writer Matt

Henry. You're listening to the TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. So Sonny, I was going to start

this talking about the 100, but things have moved on since then. An England call up yesterday,

where were you when you found out? How did you find out um i was actually at

breakfast um thankfully i'd got down a bit late so i was one of the only ones there um but i got a call

from an unknown number and thinking i was going to be told that i'd won an ipad or something and

i was going to probably lose load of money on my account um yeah i heard heard, oh, hi, mate, it's Baz. I was originally a bit confused, and then clocked like, oh, oh, the Baz, like, right, okay. And then he said, yeah, I want you to be involved in the South Africa one days in the Island T20 series. I said to him oh I promise I'm normally more

talkative than this I'm just a bit lost of words and he was like yeah I've heard so I'm not sure

how to take that but I was pretty it was pretty surreal experience and to be honest I don't think

it's all really sunk in yet to be honest it's a very yeah obviously very special moment um but called my parents straight

after um there's a coach from somerset called baz as well so when i told my dad oh i've just spoken to

baz he was like oh what did what was he talking to you for i was like oh uh no bas so yeah it was

very surreal experience and yeah very grateful Did you tease the parents a little bit? Was that I've just spoken to Baz dot, dot, dot, and see whether they worked out what that meant? Absolutely no chance. I was straight in. Dad. Well, I actually don't call my dad dad, dad, call him Bakes, but I was like, Bakes, you won't believe this. I think I've been called up for England. Yeah, that feels weird saying that out loud again, but there we go. I don't think that's going to change, to be honest. So is it a surprise? I mean, you've obviously done well this summer. You got that England development contract last year. You must have known that England were thinking about you,

but is it still a sense of surprise for it to have come this soon? I mean, yeah, I mean, you never really want to presume that anything's going to happen. That's the thing. And I try really hard to take stuff one step at time. I know it's a massive cliche, and I always get quite a lot of chat from that from my mate so I always say one thing, one step at a time. But I really do mean that. I don't want to

start thinking of stuff ahead and, you know, as that mindset has shown, that stuff takes care of

itself when you just try and think about the now and, you know, just bowling with the next game

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