Sitting quietly once you've made the house all shiny.

Down time can be just fine, playing bangers from the 90s.

Tea break.

Lunch break.

Maybe listen to the outbreak.

Sometimes it's not time for some tombola, right?

It's enjoying lasagna time, chilling with a book time, or time to visit your nan time go on play some other time put your phone

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hey everybody andrew idan here and it's dan samatovich hello we're here outside of our normal sort

of rhythm to tell you about a show we think you're going to want to listen to.

Oftentimes in the true crime space, there's not a lot of discussion or there's not enough discussion about the most vulnerable in our society, right?

Yeah. Crimes against children. Yeah. And we wanted to bring you today a show from our good friend Andrea Dunlop called

Nobody Should Believe Me. Yeah, Andrea is awesome. And she is someone who's really been focused on this space

and focused on these stories for a very long time. Specifically, she really tends to zone in on

Munchaus and biproxy types of cases. And Drew, why don't you tell the in on Munchausen by proxy types of cases.

And Drew, why don't you tell the people what Munchausen by proxy is?

Sure.

It's something that I've seen in the news, and I think people who pay attention to crime news have seen before.

And it's essentially the fabrication of illness or abuse of children

at the hands of a parent or a caregiver of some kind

with the intention of gleaning some sort of attention.

And Andrea is somebody who comes to this from a personal place, right?

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