We're excited to share a preview of a new podcast.

We think you'd enjoy Mind Games.

What if you could hypnotize yourself into a better you?

Or secretly hypnotize others into giving you anything you want.

That's the promise of NLP.

Mind Games is an investigation into the world of neurolinguistic programming, or NLP, a blend of hypnosis,

linguistics, and psychology that has quietly shaped industries, institutions, and belief systems

around the world. Part science experiment, part investigation, part true crime thriller.

Mind Games tells the story of NLP and its crazy cast of disciples, including the fake doctor,

who invented it at a new age commune, took it to Fortune 500 boardrooms, and whose gruesome murder

trial did little to stop its rise.

Richard was my first real therapist.

Debra Kanter Morton was a student and one of their first guinea pigs.

I actually did quite a bit of my personal work with the both of them.

That was extremely powerful.

Debra experienced therapeutic breakthroughs with Bandler and Grindr.

But by the end of her time...

I plotted revenge. I thought of suing them. I thought about putting sugar in their gas tanks.

Debra first met Bandler when they were both volunteering at a peer counseling center,

and Bandler was the trainer.

Richard Bandler was in there training you.

You're both undergraduate students.

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