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🗓️ 1 July 2021
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0:00.0 | I'm Peter Frankapan and this is my new podcast. I've been thinking. During my time as a professor, a historian and an author, I'm lucky enough to read some amazing books and to talk to some incredibly interesting people with captivating minds |
0:20.9 | about fascinating topics. So in my brand new podcast, I'm going to be looking at some of the |
0:26.3 | themes from around the world to help us understand and explain the past, the present, and the future. |
0:32.1 | Hear me in conversation with the likes of former director of the FBI, James Comey. |
0:36.0 | I was surprised that the premise of the dinner was, did I want to stay as FBI director? |
0:40.4 | And then when he very early on over his salad, asked explicitly for a pledge of loyalty |
0:45.4 | that would violate the norm that had been established over 50 years. |
0:48.5 | Time slowed down, and all I could think up to do in that moment was stare at him. |
0:52.7 | You picture yourself alone at a table on the |
0:55.2 | first floor of the White House residence with the president of the United States, and you go one beat, |
1:00.6 | two beats, three beats without speaking or blinking. I was ready more when he came back at me |
1:07.5 | the second time. You have to interrupt Donald Trump and he kind of went, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I need loyalty. Biologist, TV presenter and Professor Alice Roberts. |
1:15.1 | The history of anthropology in that way and I suppose studies of inheritance was, you know, |
1:20.3 | so marred by racism, sexism and, you know, people trying to rank humans. I mean, in the 19th century, they just seemed utterly obsessed with looking at human diversity, |
1:31.2 | because that's what it was about assessing human diversity and working out who was best. |
1:35.4 | Chinese activists and artists, I Weiwei. |
1:38.3 | I think basically China is authoritarian capitalism, which they found they have such an advantage in dealing with the West, |
1:48.4 | you know, the classic liberal or the capitalism, which they do have the system confident in dealing with the West, |
1:59.8 | because they see in so many sense it's impossible in the West. |
2:05.2 | But in China, it's just, you know, nothing's impossible in China. |
2:08.9 | But at the same time, the Communist Party still cannot really have its legitimacy to be established. |
2:17.6 | Those guests and more all feature on I've Been Thinking with Peter FrancoPen. |
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