Hi, this is Jen Psaki from MSNBC's Inside with Jen Psaki.

How do you take an unprecedented election that could see a criminally indicted ex-president

take on the current commander-in-chief?

How do you win crucial down-ballot races that will ultimately shape the power dynamics

for whom ever wins the White House?

And how do you win over voters of any party when mistrust in leadership as at an all-time

high?

Carmichastical and Jennifer Paul Mary, the host of a new MSNBC podcast, How to Win 2024,

have some ideas.

They're two of the most well-respected voices in American politics today, and have first-hand

experience winning difficult, if not impossible, races.

Claire McCaskill was the first woman ever elected to the U.S. Senate from Missouri, and

she won as a Democrat in a red state at that.

She also knows how to win at the state and local level, serving as a county prosecutor

and in the state house of representatives.

Not only does Claire know how to win her own races, but she knows how to pick a winner,

becoming one of the first senators to endorse Barack Obama in January 2008.

Jennifer Paul Mary is considered one of the most accomplished communications advisors in

U.S. politics.

She served as White House communications director for President Obama, director of communications

for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, and White House deputy press secretary for

President Bill Clinton.

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