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IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

Introducing Fela Kuti: Fear No Man

IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

Higher Ground

Relationships, Society & Culture, Education, Self-improvement

4.4 • 9.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Hey IMO listeners! We want to share an episode of a new podcast from Higher Ground and Audible that we think you will love. In Fela Kuti: Fear No Man, Jad Abumrad—creator of Radiolab, More Perfect, and Dolly Parton's America—tells the story of one of the great political awakenings in music: how a classically trained 'colonial boy' traveled to America, in search of Africa, only to return to Nigeria and transform his sound into a battering ram against the state—creating a new musical language of resistance called Afrobeat. In a world that’s on fire, what is the role of art? What can music actually…do? Can a song save a life? Change a law? Topple a president? Get you killed?

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0:00.0

Hey, Higher Ground listeners, I'm Chad Abumrad. You may know me from Radio Lab or Dolly Parton's

0:05.1

America. I'm here to tell you about my new show, Higher Ground's latest music podcast, called

0:11.0

Felakutti Fear No Man. Fela is basically, you could think of him as the Nigerian James Brown,

0:16.8

but with some Muhammad Ali thrown in and some Nelson Mandela, I think he's one of the most important musicians of the 20th century.

0:23.4

And in the 1960s and 70s, he created an entirely new genre of music called Afroby,

0:29.1

and then he turned that music into a weapon against the state.

0:33.2

Like if you have ever wondered, what is the point of art?

0:37.8

Like what can art do in this crazy moment we're living in?

0:41.2

His life is a case study.

0:43.7

I've been working on this project for three years, talk to so many interesting people.

0:46.9

Fellas family, Madei, Cheyun, Femi, Kuti, Yenikuti, historians, activists, luminaries like

0:52.9

Ayo Adebari, Brian Ino, David Byrne,

0:55.5

Santi Gold, and yes, President Barack Obama. All right, so I would love to share an episode with

1:00.5

you right now. It's all about Fela, how he became the musician he is, created Afrobeat,

1:06.7

this musical language of resistance. I hope you like it. And if you do, you can find the

1:10.8

rest of the episodes on Audible

1:12.1

or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:14.3

Thank you for checking it out.

1:29.7

How do you describe Thelah to someone who doesn't know?

1:34.6

I've played around. I've done it a million times. I don't know if any time has worked.

1:35.3

Like, I'll go.

1:41.9

Fela is like Bob Marley and Mandela combined.

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