Hi, everyone. Welcome to my podcast, Drunkish. I'm Stephanie Wilder Taylor. Last year, I published a book

called Drunkish where I told my story about quitting drinking, but now I'm doing a podcast where I

talk to other people about quitting, drinking, and other stuff. So whether you're sober, sober, curious, or just like hearing

stories about Wino's, you're welcome here. And before we get to today's guest, please follow

this podcast on your little podcast app, subscribe to it. Please review it or rate it. It will help

me grow. Today, my guest is a friend of mine,

personal friend of mine. Her name is Laura Calf Cart Robbins. She's the author of a best

selling book called Stash, My Life in Hiding. She also hosts a popular podcast called The Only One in the Room, where she talks to people

about being the only person to have experienced something. And in 24, her New York Times modern love

essay was turned into an episode of the Modern Love podcast, which is very cool. She was named the

SDWF memoirist of the year. She's a TEDx speaker. She's been on a bunch of shows, the Tamron

Hall show, Dr. Phil, and her work has appeared all over the place, but she is with us now.

So please enjoy Michelle. Hello, Laura.

I'm so excited.

All the people who listen to my intro know how excited I am to talk to you.

We have, wow, we go back.

We go back to the beginning of both of our sobrieties, which I want to discuss.

But also, we also have been, I've been on your podcast twice.

You've been on my, we know each other's stories.

Yes.

Yeah.

But now we're bringing your story to other people. I think I'm going to say,

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