The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

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Minds or hearts about this.

It's all pretty straightforward, easy to do. Sit down,

sit down, close your eyes and boom, you're like in bliss and

happiness and don't have any questions.

I seem to have when I sit down once I get through a few minutes of mental churn pretty consistent feelings and I think I described a little bit about this last week, just kind of like underlying anxiety, not huge, but there.

And I also have a desire for it not to be there.

So I'm just, I'm wondering how to hold those things.

Well, that's the, that's the good question because hold it means you're not doing what?

Not necessarily trying to change it. Change it or fix it or go along with the desire and then you know try to blast the anxiety out of existence or something. So I so just to hold, just the fact that you have that desire or that

wished, to hold it, that's fantastic. And even to have that wish is the beginning of some different relationship to it, right? So we're kind of looking

for a different relationship, and that's partly what the mindfulness does. It shifts our relationship

to these, to our desires, to our emotions, to our versions, you know,

and so, and part of the shift is we learned, as you you said, we hold it rather than go along with it. We hold it rather get involved with it.

So can you answer your own question now that you said? You asked the question so well?

Yeah, I'm just not really satisfied with the answer though. But why don't you say it?

Say what you would answer it by yourself.

That the, both the anxiety and then also the kind of layer below it, which is a desire for it to be different, are things that I can hold mindfully and just as a feeling would, a physical

sensation would be or the breath is just to notice it and to be with it.

Great and do you have any sense of why that's that answers this. just to notice it and to be with it. Great.

And do you have any sense of why that answer

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