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State of the Union

Interviews with Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan; Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly; Former National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan

State of the Union

CNN

News

3.41.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

On CNN’s State of the Union, Dana Bash presses House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan over President Trump pressure on the Justice Department to go after his political opponents. They also discuss ICE’s aggressive tactics and Trump firing federal workers en masse. Next, Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly sits down with Dana to discuss Democrat’s strategy as the shutdown stretches into its second week. Then, former Biden National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan joins Dana to react to the potentially historic ceasefire-hostage in Gaza and what’s next for the Middle East. Finally, CNN Senior Political Commentator Scott Jennings, CNN Political Commentator Jamal Simmons, former State Department official Nayyera Haq, and foreign policy analyst Rebeccah Heinrichs discuss Trump’s success negotiating peace abroad while sowing discord here at home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Blind justice?

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Trump says he's the law and order president

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as he targets blue states, cracks down on

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political opponents. In theory, the chief law enforcement officer. And frees a controversial

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ally from prison. Is the president tipping the scales? George Santos joins me live next. Plus,

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no kings. Huge crowds take to the streets to protest the Trump administration.

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