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Interviewing the wife you cheated on

Shameless

Shameless Media

Society & Culture

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Hello! On today’s show: Remember the Try Guys scandal of 2022? Yep, the scandal that TIME Magazine called one of the most viral moments of the year? Well, it’s just been given fresh oxygen: the man at the centre of the cheating fiasco, Ned Fulmer, has sat down with the woman he cheated on (the mother of his children, Ariel Fulmer) to unpack exactly what happened, and how they’d like to very much move on now, please. So, we’re going to walk you through the anatomy of this story, and unpack all of our thoughts about the podcast interview people can’t stop talking about right now. This week, Zara recommended Three Days in June by Anne Tyler. This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Samsung. Fold or Flip the new Galaxy Z series today. Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1). Shameless Podcast is produced by Annabelle Lee and Eilish Gilligan, executive-produced by Lucy Hunt and audio-edited by Annabelle Lee. Our social media team consists of Naima Fatema and Emily Li, and our partnerships manager is Cindy Luu. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn    Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux  Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp  Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast  Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of yours. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode of Shameless Media.

0:08.0

This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Samsung.

0:11.0

Fold or Flip, the new Galaxy Zed series today. Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast for smart people who love dumb stuff.

0:44.9

You're joined, as always, by Melbourne Writers, Michelle Andrews, that would be me, and Zara McDonald, that would be you.

0:50.8

Hello, Michelle Andrews, and hello, producer Annabelle Lee.

0:53.3

Hi!

0:54.0

Filling in for Eilish Gilligan this Monday, coming up on today's show. Remember the Tri-Gykeye scandal of 2022? Yep, the scandal that Time magazine called one of the most viral moments of the year. Well, it's just been given fresh oxygen. The man at the centre of the cheating fiasco, Ned Fulmer, has sat down with the woman

1:11.7

he cheated on, the mother of his children, Ariel Fulmer, to unpack exactly what happened

1:16.6

and how they'd like to very much move on now, please. So we're going to walk you through the

1:20.9

anatomy of the original story, unpack all of our thoughts about the new podcast interview,

1:25.2

because people simply cannot stop talking about it right

1:27.8

now. But first, Zazzy, what do you want to do? Tell me about your week. Give me a wreck. You choose.

1:33.9

Well, I'm really excited to talk about this. Let me start there. But secondly, I do have a recommendation

1:38.4

for you. I have a book that I read on the plane from London. So I'm going to recommend it to you. Please. It's called Three Days

1:46.2

in June. It's by Anne Tyler. It's not super long. It's about 200 pages. So if you're feeling like

1:51.5

you're in a bit of a reading rut and big books feel intimidating, I know that feeling where

1:55.9

you're like, oh, am I going to get through it? This is literally about three days in June. It focuses on a mother over

2:04.4

the course of her daughter's wedding celebrations. And obviously there's a lot of drama around

2:09.8

the wedding. I'm guessing it's based not in Australia. It's like a summary wedding. Yes,

2:14.0

exactly right. In America? Yeah. She can't remember. She reads that many books.

2:18.4

I actually can't remember.

2:20.1

These sounds really fun.

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