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It's the ultimate travel sidekick. Hello and welcome to another special in conversation episode with Camille Chariere.

It is Mish.

By now you know, I wasn't able to make it to London and Dublin this year.

But Zara and Gill and the team did.

And boy, did they adore this chat with Camille.

If the name isn't familiar, we've been huge fans for a very long time,

having read Camille's words in Vogue, Elle, and the Sunday Time style,

and when not alone, millions of people follow Camille for her incisive analysis

on clothes, culture and modern life.

In this episode, Zara and Camille unpacked how she started her career in fashion, how

trying to have a baby via IVF broke her, and of course what Kemi is so known and adored for,

dating and love in your 20s and 30s.

I obviously lapped this episode up and I think you will find Kami's opinion on why it's not always a bad thing to change parts of yourself for your partner, particularly compelling. Here's Kamee, Sherriere. Kami, welcome to Shameless. Thank you. It is so exciting to have you here. We've got our On-air producer, Eilish, sitting to my ride. Hello. Gill has a bit of a game for you at the end. I'm going to be having a chat with you, but if Gil has anything she wants to interrupt and say, she's very welcome. I feel like this has been a long time coming. I feel like last time we're in London, Michelle, and you were trying to make something happen. Schedules were tough. I'm super excited. I'm a long time listener and fan.

You've got me through some hard times. I don't like when you guys go away because it's not

our holidays. I'm like, you cannot be doing this. We need you guys right now. I'm glad to be in

season for you. I want to start with when I was kind of prepping now. Well, I'm glad to be in season for you.

I want to start with when I was kind of prepping for this interview, I didn't realize that you studied law. And so what I wanted to ask you to start is like when you went and studied law, what was it that you saw for yourself and your future? What were you kind of looking towards? I had no idea what I was doing. I grew up in France and the French system is very different to the system here in that you have to make your decisions much earlier on. It's a very

strict, linear way of channeling yourself into your future. The truth is, the truth is, it was

probably legally blonde.

I'm not going to lie.

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