Welcome folks I'm Joseph von Benedict with the backcountry hunting podcast and today we're sitting down with a couple of cool individuals at the Western hunting expo in Salt Lake City.

I've got Courtney and Mark Denham with me, and they are deeply rooted in the Outdoorsman and Wilderness

Athlete Brands.

Guys, if you would, go ahead and tell our listeners a little bit about yourselves because I know

if I try

I'll stumble over your titles and so forth. Can we kick it off with you

Courtney? Hi my name's Courtney Dunnam like you said I am the CEO of

Wilderness athlete and outdoors wins. Mark Denham I'm CEO of Wilderness Athletes and Outdoorsbins.

Mark Denham, I'm the general manager of Outdoorsmans and then also does some things

on the side with Wilderness Athlete every once in a while. Very cool.

So we're going to go through each of the two brands and then another aspect of your business,

which is you specialize in optics,

and you've got a wealth of knowledge there that I really

want to tap into and talk about but let's start with the supplements basically

the Wilderness Athlet brand now as a little bit of a preface

When you get in the backcountry and you're starting to approach middle age like I am

Well heck I'm 43 I'm in middle age you start slowing down and when it comes to packing a big

moose quarter or challenging a big mountain whether you're trying to find an alpine country mule deer or a

sheep at the top

it helps to have something that keeps your body running well

when i was twenty i laughed at this stuff not anymore. So Courtney yesterday I was talking to one of your texts and they mentioned the balance of

Carbohydrates in your energy supplement and how important that is to I can't remember the details

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