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The Rich Roll Podcast

Interview With An Icon: Katie Couric On The State of Media, Institutional Distrust, Cancer Advocacy & What Actually Creates Happiness

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Education, Health & Fitness

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Summary

Katie Couric is a journalist and the first woman to solo-anchor a major network evening newscast.  We explore the disintermediation of news media, institutional distrust, and the fragmentation of shared truth in America. Katie shares her experiences navigating the CBS boys club, her perspective on the Sarah Palin interview, the craft of asking great questions, her cancer advocacy work after personal tragedy, and what she's learned about happiness.  Along the way, Katie admits she's never been addicted to anything—until now.  With four decades of perspective, Katie doesn't hold back. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Bon Charge Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.boncharge.com AG1: Get their best offer ever – Welcome Kit, D3+K2, Flavor Sampler, plus a FREE bonus gift ($126 in value!)⁠https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll Prolon: Get 15% OFF plus a FREE bonus gift👉🏼https://www.prolonlife.com/richroll BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉🏼https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://www.rivian.com On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style👉🏼https://www.on.com/richroll LMNT: Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase👉🏼https://www.drinklmnt.com/richroll  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

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0:00.0

I think people need to gather together and actually have conversations that enable

0:08.8

dialectical thinking, like two things could be true at once, or has some nuance to a conversation,

0:18.2

like getting out of your bubble.

0:20.5

And I think everyone's entitled to their own opinion,

0:25.0

but they're not entitled to their own set of facts.

0:28.0

I mean, there are some things that just are empirically true

0:32.5

and some things that are false.

0:34.5

Yeah. that are false.

0:51.0

Katie Couric, people, this is what's happening.

0:55.4

And I got to say, I could not be happier about it. If you're tuning into this on the day that i put it up i happen to be in florida speaking at a wellness themed event called

1:01.5

eudomonia which means that i recorded this introduction almost two weeks in advance so i can't

1:07.9

actually give you an honest life update from last week, other than to maybe fill

1:13.4

in a few gaps. As some of you guys know, I've been working on this book, which I really want to keep

1:18.4

under wraps until it's done. In fact, I made a promise to myself to not talk about it until then.

1:23.6

And I made that promise to myself for a couple of reasons. First, because I think talking about the thing that you're working on has a way of releasing just enough dopamine to give you this sense of satisfaction.

1:34.5

That makes you feel like you're doing the thing or that you have done something that you actually haven't.

1:40.5

And also because creativity is a fragile thing. and I think it needs to be protected.

1:47.1

So that's what I'm trying to do.

1:48.5

So things like laundering it in conversation or in public, in my experience at least,

1:53.8

has this tendency to put off the muse and also invite all kinds of opinions into into the equation that if you're not careful,

2:02.8

end up causing you to question yourself or to intrude upon that precious creative process.

2:09.0

So suffice it to say that I'm going to keep the subject matter of all of this under lock

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