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The David Knight Show

Interview: Why Private Companies Beat Governments In Space

The David Knight Show

David Knight

Politics, News, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.6765 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Rainer Zitelmann, historian and author of New Space Capitalism, brings a genuinely different angle to the billionaire space race — SpaceX ran 165 of the world's 324 orbital launches last year and put 80% of all payload into orbit, making it larger than the entire Chinese space program. The more interesting argument is about property rights: the 1967 Outer Space Treaty bars nations from claiming celestial bodies but is silent on private companies, and Zitelmann argues the legal gap will be filled the same way the American West was — settlers took the land first, government legalized it later.

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0:00.0

Joining us now is Reiner Zidelman. He has a book that is going to be released in just a few days,

0:13.2

New Space Capitalism, the Entrepreneurial Path to the Stars. And I'm really fascinated to talk to him

0:19.0

about this because I have followed this very closely myself, just like Jeff Bezos has since he was in college.

0:25.6

I did a report about 10 years ago talking about the billionaire space race.

0:31.3

And I'm very curious as to what is really in it for them.

0:35.4

And I'm curious to talk to Mr. Zadlman about this.

0:38.0

Again, the book is New Space Capitalism.

0:41.5

And he understands the dollars and cents and how important they are to that.

0:45.6

So thank you for joining us, sir.

0:48.3

Thank you for inviting me.

0:49.6

I appreciate it.

0:51.5

Let's talk a little bit about the capitalism involved with all this and what do they

0:55.5

want out of this besides the obvious government contracts for satellites and other military

1:00.6

uses and things like that.

1:02.8

Because when we go back and we look at the settlement of America, there were a lot of

1:06.2

corporations that were formed.

1:07.7

We had corporations that were behind the settlements in Virginia, as well as in

1:13.0

Massachusetts Bay. Most of them went bankrupt. So even though there was a lot to be, a lot of resources

1:21.8

to be had, a lot of timber, a lot of tobacco and other things like that, many cases, it was

1:26.9

too little too late for all of them.

1:29.1

So what is it that they're really trying to do,

1:30.9

especially when we look at Musk and his plans to colonize Mars?

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