Joining us now is Myron Ebell.

He is with fix the EPA veto.org.

And he's been pushing a deregulation agenda for quite some time.

And as you know, I've talked about this.

I think the greatest problem that, uh, problem that we

have here in the U.S. in terms of being able to grow our economy and being able to have

manufacturing, all the rest of stuff is the strangling regulations coming out of Washington.

And probably nowhere is that worse than, uh, in the environmental regulations. And so,

uh, Myron Ebell was part of the transition team in Trump's first administration.

I know some of the people that were part of that.

I had worked with them at American Tradition Institute, which now has become E&E News. And so they had some high expectations. Some good things were done. Some things were left

incomplete. That's kind of the way that it always works. But we're going to talk about some of the

issues that still remain and a major loophole that is there that is going to allow, if it's not

closed, it's going to allow the rapid

reassertment of some of the things that have been removed. So joining us now is Myron Ebell.

Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

Thanks for having me, David. Well, thank you. Tell us a little bit about what you're looking at.

When you talk about a gaping hole in the deregulatory push,

what are you talking about in terms of the Clean Water Act?

Well, there are a number of environmental laws that are a problem and that need reform

and making faster.

But one problem that the Trump administration has not focused on is what happens if there is an unfriendly administration in the future, a radical environmental administration.

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