This is the Daily Signal podcast for Tuesday, May 30th, I'm Tyler O'Neill.

I sat down with Mark Mechler, President of the Convention of States and Michael Ferris,

also a leader at the Convention of States, a Senior Advisor.

He's also the General Counsel at the National Religious Broadcasters and Founder of Patrick

Henry College and the Home School Legal Defense Association.

Many great organizations and my interview with them took place at the National Religious

Broadcasters Convention.

We talked about the headwinds that conservative Christians face in the public square, why

we should speak up anyway, and particularly some of the encouraging things we saw at

NRB 2023, take a listen right after this.

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This is Tyler O'Neill.

I'm managing editor at the Daily Signal.

I'm joined by Mark Mechler, President of Convention of States and Michael Ferris, Grand Puba

or former Grand Puba of NRB, ADF, COS, and home school parents everywhere.

In all seriousness, he is the general counsel at NRB and senior advisor at Convention of

States at the moment, but he's founded so many organizations it's hard to keep track.

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