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All right, friends, Greg Kogel here.

The show is Stand to Reason, and lots of times I'll spend my time, reasoning with you about things and giving you a piece of my mind.

But every once in a while I get an opportunity to interview an author, and every once in a while, they're good friends.

And that's the case here.

In fact, my guest today needs no introduction, so I will not introduce him.

Hi, Sean.

Greg, that might be the best introduction I've had yet.

I love it.

Good to be with you.

Look, and I have all of these – you know, you hear people say, my guest needs no introduction,

and they spend a half an hour introducing.

Of course, I'm just thinking, look, everybody knows Sean McDowell, right? Associate Professor Christian Apologetics, Viola, author of like 20 books, co-hosts of the Thinking Biblically. So if you want some bona fides, there they are. But he's been a friend for many years, like 25 or more, I don't know, 20 years ago, when we were living in Carson, you were over to our house with a group for, you know, about eight or nine months, we did a group together, and we became really close friends, and we've done so much work since it. Last year, at all of our reality events for that schedule. So it was really, it's really, sorry, sweet to have you on board, Sean. So thanks for

taking the time. Now, most of you can't see Sean's background. It looks like he's in a disco with

books. It's really, really, very cool. And I look really plain right now, Sean. So you've just

got all the, you've got all the aesthetic talent there on your side right now.

Is that what you use for your, your podcast? Do you're, I think, biblically podcast?

What that means is you're going to bring the substance, and I'm just trying to bring style to

make up for it. But kidding aside, yeah, this is my background. It's a Batman signal and a

biola sign and just some fun stuff.

It's just kind of a YouTube social media thing.

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