You are listening to the 10 Minute Entrepreneur podcast with host, Sean Castrina.

Today's going to be a great podcast.

I have the founder and former CEO of Narra Bread.

I have one of the lead investors in chairman of Kava, which is now public company.

It's great to have you on the podcast, Ron.

Good to speak, Sean.

How are you doing?

It's been great.

It's Ron Shake.

If anybody is wondering what that last name is, I want to get that in there as well.

I just had to get through the long bio and make sure I get all these things, everything

correct.

Obviously.

Sean, that was 37 years you went through in 10 seconds.

And I didn't want to screw it up because we know little titles here and there can really

some people can let's do, I don't know if that's accurate, but I ate a Panera Bread last

week.

I had it delivered.

So Panera was the one to jump off the page to me, but Kava is also huge.

So we're going to get into, you know, obviously some of that stuff in this incredible book

that you just wrote called Know What Matters Lessons from a Lifetime of Transformations.

But first, I like to start with, when did you know you were an entrepreneur?

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