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a talk about a lot. All right, friends, so welcome to the show after 30 years, 33 years are here in that

Rooster Crow. It still makes me laugh a little bit. I have in front of me, the show standard reason by the way and this is Greg

Kockel your host I have in front of me a book titled the surprising

rebirth of belief in God.

And subtitle, why new atheism grew old,

that's a good thing in my view,

and secular thinkers are considering Christianity again. The author is one of my favorite guys to interview

or be interviewed by and we've swapped the both sides of the microphone on a number of occasions and he sounds really smart

because of his British accent but he also is really smart that helps. His name is

Justin Briarley, formerly the very the the host of the very popular

unbelievable podcast and Justin what a treat to have you back on board today and

what are you doing these days since the demise of unbelievable or whatever happened to tell us about that?

Well, unbelievable has not gone away. It still exists, but I've moved on to new things.

And yeah, it's been so long, Greg I there's a lot to catch you up on to be

honest since we last spoke but right yeah I I guess I guess I was on the show you know I

started the show and hosted it for over 17 years so it was a long running show with me at the helm and

Obviously we had some fantastic debates over the years so many big hitters in the world of Christian apologetics and

atheism and you know lots of theological debates over the years grew a really big

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