Interventional Pyschiatry and the Future of Mental Health | William Sauvé, MD - E424

Low Carb MD Podcast

Drs. Brian Lenzkes & Tro Kalayjian

Medicine, Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

William Sauvé, MD is CMO at Osmind and a leader in interventional psychiatry. A former Navy psychiatrist, he's expanded access to TMS and esketamine nationwide—helping build and scale hundreds of cutting-edge psychiatry clinics.

In this episode, Drs. Tro, Brian, and William talk about…

(00:00) Intro
(05:47) Dr. Sauve's educational and professional experiences as a Navy psychiatrist during the Iraq War
(15:26) The neurotransmitter theory of metabolic dysfunction and why it does not sufficiently explain depression
(18:50) Common myths in medicine which are finally starting to be challenged
(26:07) Why practicing psychiatry effectively takes courage and dedication
(31:22) Trans-cranial Magnetic Stimulation as a treatment for depression
(35:06) Cranial Electric Stimulation
(37:18) Combining TMS with metabolic therapy for maximum impact
(41:20) The possibility of complete, permanent remission of psychiatric disorders and the emergence of Interventional Psychiatry
(51:36) Some practical, business-related reasons why TMS and Esketamine have not been widely adopted as treatments by psychiatrists

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Achilles in Vietnam (book): https://www.amazon.com/Achilles-Vietnam-Combat-Undoing-Character/dp/0684813211

William Sauvé, MD:

Osmind: https://www.osmind.org/about/william-sauve-m-d
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-sauvé-md-45009813

Dr. Brian Lenzkes:

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Low Carb MD Podcast. No one is beyond help. No one is beyond hope.
0:07.2	Nothing said on the Low Carb MD podcast is medical advice. Please consult your own doctor before making any lifestyle changes.
0:20.7	Hello and welcome back to the low carb MDE podcast.
0:23.9	We're streaming live and then we're also recording this for posterity sake.
0:29.8	Trow, welcome.
0:30.8	We have a great guest.
0:32.1	Oh, my God.
0:32.8	Who can deadlift more than both of us combined.
0:35.5	Actually, I think that's probably true.
0:38.2	You know, somebody who can, you know, I, I had the pleasure of meeting him.
0:44.2	We have an awesome guest.
0:45.9	Just a, you know, let me give you a quick brief.
0:48.3	First of all, he's got the greatest name.
0:51.5	If I was going to see a psychiatrist, you know, I'd want to see Dr. William Swoff,
0:56.3	right? Did I pronounce it right? Is it Swap, right? No. No, okay. That's a great place to start.
1:04.3	Yeah, perfect. The A comes before the U, which I, which I do maintain as an optical illusion for all English speakers. So it's
1:14.4	Sovay because the A comes first. And now, I don't say it quite good enough for my cousins,
1:21.5	but the closest you can get to the French name is Sovay. Well, can we excuse my Armenian and my dyslexia, you know,
1:30.9	my Armenian heritage and my dyslexia? You're 100% forgiven. But I'm going to call you Will,
1:37.0	if you're okay with that. That's my favorite, actually. Awesome. And, you know, I'm excited because
1:42.7	we met, I think it was about a year ago.
1:46.0	And I was like, we were talking about metabolic health and you were talking about metabolic psychiatry.
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