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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Interpreting AI’s Acceleration (Robert Wright & Nora Belrose)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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0:28 Nora’s work on AI alignment and interpretability 2:21 Is *a* singularity near? 9:52 Nora: AI may take my job within two years 14:56 The reason(ing) behind AI’s latest acceleration 24:14 Thinking through the “chain-of-thought” process 41:44 AI “thinking” vs human thinking 47:21 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nora Belrose (EleutherAI). Recorded February 18, 2024.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:27.4

Hi, Nora.

0:30.9

Hi, Bob.

0:32.1

How are you doing?

0:33.7

I'm doing all right.

0:35.3

How about you?

0:36.8

Okay, I'm actually increasing the volume of my microphone, so I may be coming through a little louder now.

0:41.2

But I'm doing fine.

0:42.5

Let me introduce this.

0:44.5

I'm Robert Wright, publisher of Non-Zero Newsletter.

0:47.0

This is the Non-Zero podcast.

0:48.5

You're Nora Bellrose, an AI researcher.

0:51.5

More specifically, your head of interpretability at E-L-E-U-T-H-E-R, head of

0:59.4

interpretability means you try to figure out what's going on inside these machines and how we

1:05.8

could change that if we want to, like how they represent concepts and how we might change their,

1:14.3

you know, temperament, attitude, behavior, whatever we want to do. In other words, this is part of

1:19.2

alignment research, as they say. And I'm really glad to be talking to you. We had a conversation

1:25.7

about a year ago or so on this podcast.

1:28.4

And a ton has happened since then.

1:31.3

In fact, the ton has happened in the last five minutes.

1:33.5

I mean, the field, it seems like things are moving really fast.

1:36.8

And that's one reason I wanted to talk to you about, you know, various aspects of this.

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