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Hello, Connor.

Hey, Bob. How you doing?

I can't complain. I guess I'll start by introducing us. I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the Non-Zero newsletter, and what else? This is the Non-Zero podcast. You're Connor Eccles, managing editor of the Non-Zero newsletter and currently guest editor for a couple more weeks of

The Earthling. A real honor, has that gone to your head? Are you like, uh, it started to go to my head, but you've, you've kept me in check by becoming sort of the guest host of, of non-zero world. So there's almost, there's almost a trade there, right? So, you know, I, I, I feel humbled still. I figured like I had to do some kind of offshore balancing thing, lest you take total

control of my media empire.

But anyway, it's nice of you to do that while I'm crashing to finish a book.

But the hyper crash phase will end soon, and we hope.

So, speaking of which, the book is about AI and I was just talking to somebody yesterday who said, I can't believe AI and Trump are hitting us at the same

time. And, and it's like, it's, it's true. I want to talk about both at some point, uh, in this

conversation, but like, what do you got cooking in the earthling?

Like during this, during this period when you're seeking total immediate empire domination, you know, I'm not even like most of the earthling.

I haven't even seen, even though you're going to press the publish button soon.

That's right. Yeah. Well, the big piece this week, the lead item, is going to have a title to the effect of Trump's very good, very bad week on Ukraine.

It's been a bit of a whirlwind, I'm sure people have seen, right? So the big news item, you know, last week, obviously, you had Secretary of Defense,

Pete Hegseth talking about some things in Europe.

By the end of the week, you had heard that there was going to be a meeting between American

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