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The American Mind

“Intelligence” vs. the Republic | The Roundtable Ep. 4 Segment 1

The American Mind

The Claremont Institute

Philosophy, News, Society & Culture

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

The CIA has effectively become an organ of the deep state. Should we abolish it? Angelo Codevilla thinks so. Our editors discuss.

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0:00.0

I'm going to stay on the smile.

0:08.0

All right, gents, well, we thought we'd start today

0:10.0

with a discussion of a piece we just put up on the American mind, a very important

0:15.0

piece from our own senior fellow long-time contributor both to the Claremont Review

0:20.6

books and now the American mind, Angelo Cotevilla.

0:24.4

The essay is called Abolish CIA and FISA, How to Defend the Republic against the Deep State.

0:30.6

And this is an interesting piece.

0:32.9

It's sort of in a theme of Angelos.

0:34.9

He's written before for the Claremont Review books

0:37.8

about the political nature and misconceived origins of the CIA and the need for real reform of the

0:47.2

intelligence community with the CIA sort of at the center of that. But this new piece is more comprehensive in a way and gets into issues of FBI malfeasance and

0:58.1

really the odd and disconcerting coalescence of the politicalness of both a good portion of the

1:06.2

FBI and the CIA. Angela's main point has been for a long time that these are not just neutral experts in national security.

1:17.0

They're in fact in many ways partisan actors and that's a that's a bad and unwelcome development especially for a

1:25.4

self-governing republic. James, what do you think about all this? You've certainly

1:29.8

written on the intelligence community before both here at home

1:33.4

and then it's octopus like nexus

1:37.2

as it spreads across five eyes, et cetera.

1:39.8

Well, that's right.

1:40.7

So, you know, the Steelman version of the deep state is good argument is is simply

1:46.2

that you know if things go off the rails because democracy actually sucks and is an unreliable

1:52.2

form of government,

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