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Intelligence and the WMD Fiasco - Part II

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History, Education, News

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2008

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Looking further into the U.S. intelligence community’s faulty assessment of Iraq’s WMD program, Peter interviews Bob Drogin, author of Curveball: Spies, Lies and the Conman Who Caused a War. Bob reveals how fabricated information about Saddam’s WMD program from the Iraqi defector “Curveball” could make it all the way to the White House and consequently became one of the primary rationales for war against Iraq.

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0:07.0

Hello and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

0:21.0

I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum. I served for some

0:25.8

36 years in the Central Intelligence Agency, largely as what is called an operations officer

0:31.4

or a case officer.

0:33.0

Every month will be bringing you interesting talks with visitors,

0:36.5

with authors, with others who have something to do

0:39.4

with the world of intelligence and Espionage.

0:43.0

My guest today is Bob Drogon.

0:47.0

Bob Drogon is a national security reporter with Los Angeles Times,

0:52.0

a newspaper he's been with since 1983. reporter with

0:53.7

since 1983 and I believe Bob you've been covering National Security Affairs since

0:58.3

1998 and I invited Bob on today because he has just published a book in October of this year called

1:07.8

Curve Ball, Spies Lies and the Con Man who caused a war.

1:13.0

Curvball was the US Defense Intelligence Agency code name

1:18.0

for an Iraqi defector in Germany, who claimed, among other things,

1:21.0

that Saddam Hussein was operating a fleet of mobile biological weapons

1:25.4

labs. This worked its way into a variety of reports, including the State of the Union

1:30.2

report, and people attribute a variety of things to that information.

1:35.0

Bob Dorgan has acted as an investigative reporter here and tried to get to the bottom of Curb Paul,

1:41.0

who he was, what he did, why he did it, and what the effects were.

1:45.0

So that's what we're talking with him about today.

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