My name is Dan Koch. Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.

And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts.

I want this show to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as

former Christians and non-religious folks, anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions

about God, science, prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given bad answers to those good questions, often by people with

pure intentions.

I want to say that you have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very

seriously.

And I hope to facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across

the Christian spectrum, engaging hard questions in a multitude of ways. Thanks for listening.

Okay, I'm joined by an old friend and a new friend. The old friend is Sari Martin Concepcion.

We'll hear from her in a second. She's getting her tea or coffee and getting all set up here.

The new friend is Josh Hook, also known as Joshua N. Hook, psychologist at the University of North Texas in Denton, Texas.

Josh, thanks for being here.

Hey, so great to be here. Thanks for having me.

Sari, did you want to give an editorial note about the sound of your voice today?

Yeah, I'm just sick. So I'll be like comedy relief or something.

If you want, you could like type your questions into like a voice generator thing and then deliver them through robotic means.

That's right. That's right. AI. It's the way of the future.

So we're here to talk about what is called in the research literature intellectual humility. In my own mind,

the way I think about it is careful thinking, but those are not exactly the same thing.

Josh, you're going to help us kind of parse out what intellectual humility is exactly.

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