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Religion on the Mind

Between the Church & the World (#185)

Religion on the Mind

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

I'm joined today by journalist and author Jon Ward (previous YHP & Depolarize guest) to discuss his book "Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation." We cover using language as a weapon, epistemic modesty, and falling under the spell of a charismatic leader. Jon did not grow up "amid corrupt charlatans who use the name of God to amass riches. The leaders in [his] world were true believers whose intensity of belief blinded them to their errors." Jon's Book "Testimony": https://www.amazon.com/Testimony-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1587435772 YHP Episode with Jon Ward: https://anchor.fm/s/d8dfa4e8/podcast/rss Jon's substack: https://jonward.substack.com/ ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia@gmail.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What I've dedicated my life to is revenge.

0:04.0

A brand new drama based on the best-selling novel.

0:07.0

They think they're better than us.

0:08.0

Who do you think you are?

0:10.0

I'm going to prove to them that they're wrong.

0:12.0

She's punishing me.

0:13.0

You destroyed my family.

0:14.0

I will not rest until I've destroyed yours.

0:17.0

A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9.

0:20.0

My name A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9.

0:25.7

My name is Dan Koch.

0:30.4

Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.

0:36.4

And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts.

0:39.7

I want this show to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as former Christians and non-religious folks,

0:45.9

anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions about God, science, prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given

0:58.9

bad answers to those good questions, often by people with pure intentions. I want to say that

1:05.4

you have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very seriously.

1:11.8

And I hope to facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across the Christian

1:17.1

spectrum, engaging hard questions in a multitude of ways.

1:21.5

Thanks for listening.

1:31.4

John Ward, thank you so much, man, for being back.

1:37.3

You have been really kind of one of my go-to, not just information sources.

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