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Good Food

Instant ramen gets a gourmet upgrade

Good Food

KCRW

Society & Culture

4.51K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Pull out that package of ramen and get ready to dress it up!

  • Instant ramen is most frequently associated with tired clichés about quick dorm room eats but Peter J. Kim wants us to rethink the dried noodles.
  • Beloved baker Dorie Greenspan takes the cake in a new collection of recipes.
  • LA Times restaurant critic Bill Addison pays a visit to Cafe 2001.
  • Fighting our food confusion with science, journalist Julia Belluz and scientist Dr. Kevin Hall attempt to answer, "Why do we eat the way we eat?"
  • Chef Harry Posner of Tomat explores farmers market pomegranates.

Connect with Good Food host Evan Kleiman on Substack.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW, I'm Evan Klyman, and this is good food.

0:04.7

I don't have so many early food memories of sensory memories,

0:09.2

but I definitely remember the first time I had instant ramen.

0:12.1

And I even remember the brand.

0:13.2

It was a sapiro Ichiban original flavor.

0:16.8

And my mom made it for me.

0:19.3

I remember looking at it and just being so struck by the aroma coming out from the bowl. And I was absolutely hooked after just a few bites.

0:30.8

Who doesn't love instant ramen? The drag noodles are most frequently associated with tired cliches about quick dorm room eats,

0:39.4

but for Peter Kim, the convenient packaged food is just a place to start.

0:45.5

In Instant Ramen Kitchen, he incorporates the dried noodles into recipes that go way beyond adding hot water and a flavor packet.

0:53.5

And in this economy, his book couldn't have

0:56.2

come at a better time. Hi. Hi, Evan. I haven't made a bowl of ramen in a while, but I really have

1:05.2

loved just customizing and playing, using it as a place to begin to play.

1:12.4

Yeah, I mean, that's one of the big themes of this book is I really want people to see

1:17.3

Instant Ramen as this sort of blank canvas for play in the kitchen.

1:22.3

Yeah, it's so perfect for that.

1:24.7

Though Instant Ramen sort of emulates in one way, traditional ramen, what are there

1:30.8

noticeable differences? Yeah, so I would say if we take a component by component, if we look at the

1:37.0

noodles, both traditional and instant ramen noodles have these alkaline mineral salts that help give them some chew. But a major difference with

1:47.8

instant ramen noodles is that they have typically been fried or they might be air dried. And that

1:53.9

actually creates a porous structure in the noodles that allows them to hydrate and cook very quickly,

1:59.3

hence the instant nature of it.

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