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Chris Vermizzoz, welcome to podcasting Made Simple. So glad you're here, man.

Alex, thanks for having me, and I appreciate you thinking of me for this unique opportunity.

Absolutely, man. I feel like I, maybe people already know this. They're going to be listening,

watching later and stuff like that. But I always think that I think of Chris Grimitzos because you're one of the first guys to give me a shot in podcasting. I had a podcast and I'll never forget it. So I'm going to tell the story real brief here,

but somebody randomly, I don't know who it was. I was like, oh yeah, do you go any of the podcasting

events? I was like, there's no events for podcasters. I'm like, that doesn't exist. I'm like, there's no way. I look it up. And sure enough, I'm like, Podfest. I'm like,

is this actually for podcasters? I emailed in and I immediately heard back from you. And I think

everyone says this when they meet you, when they meet Chris Cremittos, everyone says the same thing.

But for me, I'm like, we instantly became friends. I was like, I believe on my side, now we're friends. I know. But at that point, immediately I was like, me and Chris are friends. So again, man, just thank you

for your contribution to podcasting at large for building community among podcasts. And we'll get

into some of that today. But dude, I just appreciate so much who you are in this space.

And thanks for what you're doing in the space. And also within the podcast community, I don't think you could walk a

couple of steps without someone coming up to you. You and a couple other people in our community are

like what I would call Podfest famous. So within Podfest, you have your own little tribe that will come up to you.

It's interesting to watch. It's happy for me because I'm able to walk more freely when you're around.

Nice. That's funny, man. I love that.

Man, yeah, I'm excited for every year. It's one of the main things I look forward to in podcasting is getting back together with the pod fam of Podfest. So again, thanks for what you do, man.

So today we're going to kind of go high level. We're going to kind of dive into some things as well. I might have you break some things down. But we're going to talk past, present, and future of podcasting. This is the state of

podcasting we like to do every single quarter, kind of get an update from a true industry expert.

You see podcasting from a very unique vantage point on multiple fronts, given the event that you run,

given the giant podcast that you and Katie are part of, the network, I should say that you all are part of or that you all have created and run.

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