In 22 years of covering predator investigations, doing stories about men trying to exploit vulnerable children, the cases are clear cut for the most part, right?

We do a sting. We have a police detective posing as a child in a chat. The man makes the first

move. He has a sexually charged conversation. He drives to the stinghouse. He meets me. I have the transcripts.

I have the evidence. In a recent case, the guy brought a happy meal. Well, what age of a person

consumes a happy meal? It's a child. We have evidence. You watch the commission of a crime

in real time.

But there's a case in the headlines right now that is honestly quite vexing, to me, at least.

And I've been covering these things a long time.

And it's the case of Timothy Busfield.

You've heard about it.

The actor, director, accused of

inappropriately touching two brothers, child actors, on the set of a show called The Cleaning

Woman. And he's the director and an actor in that. His wife, Melissa Gilbert, also an actress, has been very

vocal in recent days talking about this case, defending her husband, and I have a lot of questions

about it. And the lawyer representing Timothy Busfield and Melissa Gilbert is Larry Stein, and he's agreed to have a seat

with me and to get into the granular details of this case so you can better understand it,

and I honestly can better understand it. Larry Stein, thank you for having a seat with me.

I appreciate it. Well, thank you for having me and giving me

the opportunity to inform your listeners of all of the facts because he's going to be found not

guilty. I don't have any question about that. If the case even goes that far, should be dismissed

long before that by a judge, or hopefully if the DA wakes up. But I'm not

here to prove that the DA can't prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm here to prove

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