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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Inside the Portland “War Zone”

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

It’s clear President Trump wants to send troops to Portland, Oregon. But it’s not clear why—especially to people who live there. Guests: Isaac Stanley-Becker, staff writer for The Atlantic. Elizabeth Lopatto, senior reporter at The Verge.   Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Isaac, what the hell is going on in Portland right now?

0:10.4

Well, if you listen to our president, it's a war zone.

0:16.7

Isaac Stanley Becker is a writer over at the Atlantic.

0:20.6

For the last week or so, he's been chasing down a lie.

0:24.7

You look at what's happened with Portland over the years.

0:27.6

It's a burning hellhole.

0:31.1

This lie is about what's happening in Portland,

0:34.2

where for weeks, there have been protests outside of an ice facility

0:37.4

on the south side of

0:38.4

town, protests that have become a familiar part of the president's schtick.

0:43.4

How about Portland? Portland, Oregon, where it looks like a war zone. And I get a call from

0:51.8

the liberal governor, sir, please don't come in. We don't need you. I said,

0:56.3

well, unless they're playing false tapes,

0:58.6

this looked like World War II.

1:01.3

Your place is burning down.

1:04.7

I feel like I need to emphasize the lie here

1:07.3

because what the president is doing is just that dangerous.

1:12.9

If you take a look at what's been going on in Portland, it's been going on for a long time,

1:17.8

and that's insurrection. I mean, that's pure insurrection.

1:21.3

And then you have a go.

1:22.2

Does that jive with what you saw when you went there?

1:25.0

It certainly does not. The notion that Portland is a war zone is really just laughable if you go to the city and

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