Inside the Outrage Economy with the Krassenstein Brothers

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.6 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Brian and Ed Krassenstein (writers, entrepreneurs, and political commentators) join Chris Cuomo to talk about how social media fuels outrage and misinformation — and what can still be done to fix it. The brothers, known for their outspoken political commentary and massive online following, discuss what they’ve learned about truth, bias, and the business of being loud in America’s attention economy.Cuomo challenges whether online activism has become more about engagement than honesty, and the Krassensteins share how they navigate criticism, disinformation, and their own evolution in public life. Together they explore what real accountability looks like in a digital world designed to divide. Support our sponsors: http://kalshi.com/?utm_source=chriscuomoCalm your mind, change your life. Calm has an exclusive offer just for listeners of our show–get 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at https://calm.com/CUOMO Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:22.2	Chris Cuomo here. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo project.
0:27.3	The field is crowded. The pod bros, digital media, there's so many people playing a game
0:32.3	of division for dollars. And yet within that, I find some precious commodities. There is a set of brothers that you may or may not have heard of that are unique in this space. They are way beyond just being twins. They are intelligent. They are effective. They are insistent, they are growing,
0:56.0	and sometimes they take a swipe at me.
0:59.0	Brian and Ed Krasenstein are, I believe, great examples
1:05.0	of where our politics is headed.
1:07.0	So I wanted to talk to them, even though it was two on one,
1:10.0	and even though I feel that they come at me unfairly, I find them to be intelligent.
1:16.5	And I don't want to debate necessarily because I think that's cheap and easy.
1:20.6	But I did want to have a conversation about where we are, how we got here, and how the hell they can help us get to a better place.
1:36.6	So Brian and Ed, thank you very much.
1:39.7	Rare that I meet a set of brothers that kind of overshadow me and my brother,
1:46.8	but you guys have been very effective. Um, Brian, starting with you, uh, let the audience
1:53.1	understand how you guys got into this and where you're coming from. Yeah, I mean, it goes back to
1:59.3	2016 when Donald Trump began running for president, I guess, right?
2:04.6	I had a pregnant wife, Ed had a pregnant wife, our first kids.
2:09.1	Well, not Ed's first kids, but my first kid.
2:12.1	And I was like, how can this guy be the guy that we're going to elect as president?
2:18.0	Like, I can't let this happen.
2:20.0	And obviously what I did didn't work because he became president.
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