Inside the Illegal Wildlife Trade — A Crime You Never See | Monique Snosnowski
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Ian Bick
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🗓️ 30 March 2026
⏱️ 78 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The wildlife trade in general is valued up to, I think, $23 billion per year. |
| 0:05.0 | What do you think were some of the most shocking elements you came to discover when you entered this world? |
| 0:10.0 | He was cloning this sheep. He was selling trophy hunting permits to people. |
| 0:16.0 | The sheep got out, and now you have biologically cloned,oned like genetic mutants of sheep running around Montana. |
| 0:22.7 | I am a wildlife crime and security specialist. So I do a lot of research on wildlife and |
| 0:29.7 | environmental crime. And I'm also a professor. So I get to teach these topics to college students. |
| 0:36.0 | Monique Susanowski studies the illegal wildlife trade and what's happening behind the scenes |
| 0:40.7 | is worse than most people realized. |
| 0:42.8 | From the underground tiger trade in the U.S. to people keeping monkeys as pets, she breaks |
| 0:47.3 | down how these black market networks actually operate. |
| 0:50.3 | In this episode, she shares some of the craziest cases she's come across, animals are trafficked and sold and why these crimes are so difficult to stop despite happening in plain sight. |
| 1:05.0 | So I grew up in Chicago, in Illinois. I went to undergrad there. I spent my whole, you know, younger life there. |
| 1:14.1 | And then school took me. I lived to the UK. So I lived in the UK for a year to do my master's. |
| 1:20.5 | And then from there, I found my home in New York and did my PhD in the city and never left. |
| 1:25.7 | How did you get into teaching? Were your parents' teachers? |
| 1:28.2 | Or what was that like? |
| 1:29.2 | You know, it's really funny because I never, I never really pursued this expecting to be a professor or a teacher. |
| 1:40.0 | I really pursued my career for the research aspect of it. |
| 1:45.1 | So my parents were actually, my dad was an attorney, and my mom was a chemist, |
| 1:51.8 | so she worked kind of with like paints and chemical. |
| 1:54.5 | If you want to save a few quid, British gas have a way. |
| 1:57.7 | You get half-priced leky and it's called peak save. |
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