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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Inside the debt ceiling vote with GOP Whip Tom Emmer

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Deep Dive, Playbook co-author Rachael Bade joins House Majority Whip Tom Emmer (R-Minn.) and Chief Deputy Whip Guy Reschenthaler (R-Pa.) just hours before final passage of the debt ceiling bill they shepherded through the House. This is the behind the scenes story from inside the Republican whip's office of how Kevin McCarthy's leadership team convinced House Republicans to raise the debt ceiling for two years and embrace his agreement with Joe Biden, which many on the right decried as a betrayal of the base. It's a story of how Emmer and Reschenthaler pulled together a divided and fractious conference, dodging a ballooning effort to oust McCarthy from the gavel, and ultimately putting the ball back in the Democrats' court. Rachael Bade is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Tom Emmer is the House  Majority Whip and the representative for Minnesota's 6th district.Guy Reschenthaler is the House Republican Chief Deputy Whip and the representative for Pennsylvania's 14th district.Afra Abdullah is an associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Rachel Bade, this is Playbook Deep Dive.

0:02.7

I'm standing outside House Majority Whip Tom Emmer's office.

0:09.6

In just a few minutes, the bell will ding, calling lawmakers to the house chamber to take

0:14.0

the final vote on the bipartisan debt ceiling deal.

0:17.6

And I just got finished talking with the two men responsible for getting that over the

0:21.1

finish line.

0:22.1

Emmer, the whip.

0:23.6

We whip this thing almost for two weeks solid.

0:26.6

And his chief deputy whip, Guy Russian Baller.

0:29.6

What we were doing in our role was we were communicating with members where the deal

0:34.3

was, what provisions were being discussed, and then relaying thoughts and concerns back

0:39.0

to Speaker McCarthy.

0:40.8

This is the behind-the-scenes story from inside the Republican whip office.

0:45.2

Of how Kevin McCarthy's leadership team convinced House Republicans to raise the debt ceiling

0:49.7

for two years and embrace his agreement with Joe Biden.

0:53.6

An agreement that many on the right decried as they betray all of the base.

0:58.2

It's a story of how Emmer and Russian Baller pulled together a divided and fractious conference,

1:03.4

dodging a ballooning effort to House McCarthy from the Gabbell and ultimately putting the

1:07.7

ball back in Democrats' court.

1:13.1

What can we take away, I guess, from these past few days and the fact that Republicans

1:18.3

are going to be able to rally behind a debt ceiling bill?

1:22.1

Just to play devil's advocate, I mean, is this a real victory given that you guys have

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