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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

How gamblers, party animals, and true believers are hitting it big in Washington

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Ben Terris is a feature writer at The Washington Post, where he’s carved out a unique role: reporting on what he calls, “the weirdo beat.” While Ben’s colleagues focus on what’s happening on the main stage in politics, he keeps an eye on the freak show that’s happening just out of sight.  This week, Ben published his much-anticipated book “The Big Break: The Gamblers, Party Animals, and True Believers Trying to Win in Washington While America Loses Its Mind.”  “The Big Break” has a novel argument: that if you want to understand how American politics works in the post-Donald Trump era – then you really, really have to understand Ben’s field of expertise: weirdos. On this episode of Playbook Deep Dive, Playbook co-author and Deep Dive host Ryan Lizza joins Ben to discuss the rise and fall of the influential oddballs chronicled in “The Big Break,” and what their stories say about the future of politics. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Ben Terris is a feature reporter covering national politics for The Washington Post.Afra Abdullah is an associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I went hog hunting with a congressman because he was ranked by national journal wherever

0:10.0

to the time as the most conservative member of the house.

0:13.5

Ben Terrace is a feature writer at the Washington Post, where he's carved out a unique role

0:19.5

reporting on what he calls the Weirdo B.

0:22.5

And it was one of these stories where like at 7.30 in the morning I shoot a hog, you

0:25.6

know, Jewish guy from Massachusetts, never been hunting, I shoot a hog, but the gun

0:29.8

recoils and the scope hits me in the forehead and I'm bleeding, I go up to the emergency room,

0:34.7

I'm getting, you know, my head's super glued shut.

0:37.2

While Ben's colleagues focus on what's happening on the main stage, he keeps an eye on the

0:41.9

freak show that's happening just at a site.

0:44.2

And I'm like, this is great, this is why I want to be a political journalist.

0:48.3

This week, Ben published his first much anticipated book, The Big Break, The Gamblers, Party

0:54.8

Animals and True Believers trying to win in Washington while America loses its mind.

1:01.8

The Big Break has a novel argument that if you want to understand how American politics

1:07.2

works in the post-Donald Trump era, then you really, really have to understand Ben's

1:12.7

field of expertise, Weirdos.

1:16.8

I'm Ryan Liza, this is Playbook Keep Dive.

1:24.0

The Big Break chronicles the rise and fall of a cast of influential Washington

1:28.9

Weirdos, Republicans and Democrats, navigating the altered landscape of Trump's disruptive presidency,

1:37.6

including an heiress to the hunt oil fortune who put her family money to work,

1:42.4

electing left-wing progressives, and named her dog after Malcolm X.

1:47.3

A George W. Bush Republican who, like many in the GOP, joined the Trump movement

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