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Stay Tuned with Preet

Inside the Cyber War (with John Carlin)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

John Carlin is a cybersecurity expert and chairs the Global Risk and Crisis Management practice group at Morrison Foerster. He previously served as the Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division at the Department of Justice and as Chief of Staff to Robert Mueller at the FBI. He is the author of Dawn of the Code War: America’s Battle Against Russia, China, and the Rising Global Cyber Threat. Carlin speaks with Preet about his book, the U.S. response to cybercrime, China’s theft of intellectual property, and how America was unprepared for the attack on its values. Plus, Preet’s thoughts on House Democratic committee investigations and the possibility of amending the U.S. Constitution. Mentioned on this episode of Stay Tuned: - The Midroll survey - John Carlin’s book: Dawn of the Code War - The 2014 DOJ indictment of the People’s Liberation Army - The 2014 North Korea Sony Pictures hack and DOJ charges - The 2014 Iranian hack on Sands Las Vegas Corporation - The 2014 Yahoo data breach - The 1998 Lockerbie bombing - Preet’s 2012 NYT op-ed on cybercrime, Asleep at the Laptop This interview was taped on 12/4/18. Do you have a question for Preet? Tweet it to @PreetBharara with the hashtag #askpreet, email [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 and leave a voicemail. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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From Cafe, welcome to stay tuned. I'm pre-barara.

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We wore game down for years what it would look like if the rogue nation state overseas

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tried to attack the United States through cyber means. And we all got it wrong. We never

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thought it would be about a movie, about a bunch of pot smokers.

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That's John Carlin. He's the author of a new book, Dawn of the Code War. America's

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battle against Russia, China, and the rising global cyber threat. He served in the Department

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of Justice during President Obama's second term, and as chief of staff to then FBI director,

2:14.2

Robert Mueller. I speak with him about who's behind the cyber attacks on commerce and

2:17.9

elections, what's motivating them, and what the cyber threat means for all of us. But

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