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This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross.

You have a Global Tail link, correct call from Bernard Madoff.

An inmate at a federal prison.

This call is being recorded and is subject to monitoring. To hear the cost of this call

press 8 now. To accept this call, press 5 now. In case you didn't catch the

name, that was Bernie Madoff, the biggest financial swindler in American history.

This was one of about 50 phone calls Madoff made to my guest Financial Investigative

journalist Richard Behar,

while Madoff was in prison.

He was serving a 150-year sentence

for 11 felony charges, including securities

and investment fraud, filing false statements to the Securities and Exchange Commission, and perjury.

Madh have also sent Behar hundreds of emails and dozens of handwritten letters.

We'll hear recorded excerpts of some of the interviews Behar conducted with

Madoff. You can't trust a fraudster and pathological liar to tell you the truth, and Behar

didn't. His new book, Madoff, the final word, is largely based on the interviews he conducted with Wall Street insiders, prosecutors, FBI agents, and people who lost most or all of their money investing through Madoff's company,

Bernard L Madoff Investment Securities or BLMIS.

The company had a legit side, but the other side was a Ponzi scheme involving fake stock

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