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She Was 17, He Was 47: How #MeToo Changed A Marriage

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🗓️ 9 July 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Jill Ciment met her husband in the 1970s when she was a teenager and he was almost 50. At the time of their first kiss, he was a married father of two; she was his art student. In her memoir Consent she reconsiders the origin story of their marriage.

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This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross.

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When a 47 year old man has a sexual relationship with a 17 year old girl who is his art student,

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can you call the relationship consensual even if she thinks she's madly in love with him?

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What if he leaves his wife in two children? even if she thinks she's madly in love with him?

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What if he leaves his wife and two children

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to marry the student?

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What if they stay married until his death

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at the age of 93?

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That former 17-year-old is my guest Jill Cement. She's now an

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established novelist and memoirist, recipient of a National Endowment for the Arts

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Fellowship, and a Guggenheim Fellowship and a

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professor emeritus at the University of Florida in Gainesville. The questions I

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just asked are among the many questions she asked herself in her new memoir Consent.

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It's in part a reflection and critique of her previous memoir,

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Half a Life, which was published in the mid-90s

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when she was in her mid-40s. In half a life, she described

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herself as the aggressor, the one who initiated the first kiss and started the

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relationship. But in her new memoir Consent, she confesses it was her future husband, Arnold Meshes, who started it.

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