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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

Inside the $50 million “Never Trump” Plan to Finish Him Off for Good

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4800 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

This week, a group of prominent “Never Trump” Republicans and conservatives announced that they will spend $50 million to defeat Donald Trump this fall. The group, Republican Voters against Trump, hopes to appeal to independents and moderate Republicans who backed him in 2020 and might be persuaded not to in 2024. But how big is this pool of voters, and what’s the best way to reach them? We chatted with strategist Sarah Longwell, who runs the group and regularly conducts focus groups to figure out what really makes these elusive voters tick. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Daily Blast from the New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network.

0:16.4

I'm your host, Greg Sargent.

0:22.0

This week, a group of prominent never-Trump Republicans and conservatives announced that

0:26.0

they will spend $50 million to defeat Donald Trump this fall.

0:30.3

The group, which is called Republican Voters Against Trump, is hoping to appeal to voters who

0:34.9

backed him in 2020, but might be persuaded not to in

0:38.3

2024 due to a variety of reasons, such as his participation in the January 6th insurrection.

0:45.1

But how big a pool of voters is this really?

0:48.2

Is it really possible to flip enough of them to make a real difference in the core battleground

0:52.2

states?

0:53.5

What really motivates these voters,

0:55.0

and what's the best way to reach them? To get answers, we invited on Sarah Longwell, who runs

1:00.7

Republican voters against Trump and regularly conducts focus groups to figure out what makes them

1:05.6

tick. Welcome, Sarah. Hey, thanks for having me. Democratic strategists I talk to look at your effort, and their first question is,

1:14.6

how big is the slice of voters?

1:17.0

By this, I mean what percentages of 2020 Trump voters are genuinely getable in battlegrounds

1:23.0

like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada?

1:29.7

Yeah, well, so I look at it slightly differently to that, because to come up with that actual number is difficult. But here's what I know

1:34.0

about the Republican Party. There is a 70-30 split that you see come up over and over again. So if you

1:39.7

ask people, do you think the election was stolen? About 70% of Republicans say yes. About 30% say no.

1:45.2

You ask, and many polls have done this recently, if Donald Trump is convicted of a crime,

1:49.9

will you still vote for him? 70% say yes. About 30% say no. Nikki Haley is getting about 28%,

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