Welcome to Current Affairs.

My name is Nathan Robinson.

I am the editor in Chief of Current Affairs magazine.

I am delighted today to be joined by Susan Morrison.

She is the articles editor of the New Yorker magazine.

She was an original editor of Spy Magazine, which is particularly delightful because Current Affairs magazine was directly inspired by the Wonderful Spy magazine.

People don't know about it.

All the archives are online.

It is one of the greatest magazines ever made.

And I highly recommend diving into the Wonderful Spy archives.

But she is here today because she has written the new book, Lorne, the man who invented Saturday Night

Live, available from Random House already a bestseller. Susan Morrison, welcome to current

affairs. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you. Nice to be here. And before we dive into

Lorne, because you're a spy fan, I want to tell you, this is in my office. This is our Ivanka

Trump doll, which featured heavily in the art for a wonderful profile of Ivanka that we, not sorry,

not Ivana, the late Ivana, in Swat.

And this was crafted by an artist out of one of my old Barbie dolls.

I believe Spy was the first publication to sort of go to war with, like that was the start

of Trump's kind of war with the media.

Absolutely. We were the only people taking shots at him's kind of war with the media. Absolutely.

We were the only people taking shots at him.

But of course, we covered his bankruptcies and all his other idiocies.

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