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The Daily

Inside Russia’s Crackdown on Dissent

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Days after Russia invaded Ukraine, the Kremlin made it a crime to oppose the war in public. Since then, it has waged a relentless campaign of repression, putting Russian citizens in jail for offenses as small as holding a poster or sharing a news article on social media. Valerie Hopkins, an international correspondent for The Times, tells the story of Olesya Krivtsova, a 19-year-old student who faces up to 10 years in prison after posting on social media, and explains why the Russian government is so determined to silence those like her. Guest: Valerie Hopkins, an international correspondent for The New York Times, covering Russia and the war in Ukraine.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernicee, and this is the Daily.

0:07.0

Days after Russia invaded Ukraine, the Kremlin made it a crime to oppose the war in public.

0:20.9

And since then, it's waged a relentless campaign of repression, putting Russian citizens in jail

0:27.4

for offenses as small as holding a poster or sharing a news article on social media.

0:34.8

My colleague Valerie Hopkins has been reporting inside Russia on those who continue to speak

0:40.0

out despite the risks and explains why their government is so determined to silence them.

0:53.2

That's Tuesday, April 11th.

0:59.2

Valerie, tell me about this reporting you've been doing about dissent in Russia.

1:03.4

Well, as we've discussed before on the show, Sabrina, I've been trying to understand

1:08.6

how Russians really view this war.

1:11.4

We know there's a sizable group that fully and completely support the war.

1:17.2

And the images that we see quite often in the West and in Western media are of people

1:23.2

enthusiastically supporting the war, clapping for Putin, waving flags of the rallies, and

1:30.6

sending their boys off to fight with cheering.

1:34.9

But actually, you know, being on the ground in Russia, you can slowly find a different

1:40.8

picture emerging.

1:42.5

And what is that picture?

1:44.4

Starting around Russia the past six months, I've been actually surprised by how many people

1:48.6

tell me that they hate this war.

1:51.4

Including many who, once they find out I'm a foreigner, usually in hushed tones or quietly,

1:57.8

tell me like they really want me to know that most people that they know don't support this

2:03.2

war, that not all Russians support this war, that they're ashamed and that they're really

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