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🗓️ 10 April 2023
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| 0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tevernice and this is The Daily. |
| 0:11.7 | In a stunning act of political retribution, Tennessee's Republican-controlled House, |
| 0:17.5 | last week, expelled two of its members, both young black Democrats. |
| 0:23.2 | Today, my colleague Emily Cochran, on the story behind that extraordinary move, |
| 0:29.2 | and what it tells us about this moment in American politics. |
| 0:37.5 | It's Monday, April 10th. |
| 0:44.4 | So, Emily, you're in Tennessee where we saw this really remarkable vote in the state house |
| 0:49.7 | on Thursday. Tell us what happened. |
| 0:53.2 | So, the Tennessee House of Representatives voted to expel two lawmakers from the chamber. |
| 1:00.6 | These two men, Justin Jones and Justin Pearson are two relatively new young black legislators |
| 1:08.8 | who represent parts of the state's biggest cities, Nashville and Memphis. |
| 1:14.2 | This type of thing is incredibly rare. Since the Civil War era, |
| 1:18.6 | it's only happened two times in Tennessee. And typically, those expulsions have involved |
| 1:24.7 | some sort of an investigation, a lawmaker who faced criminal charges or accusations of sexual |
| 1:31.5 | misconduct. It's not something done lightly. But that wasn't what was going on here. |
| 1:37.8 | There was no criminal misconduct. |
| 1:40.5 | So, what was going on in this case, Emily? Like, why exactly were these two lawmakers expelled? |
| 1:46.4 | So, it came after they led a protest on the House floor. I think this has a lot to do with an |
| 1:52.7 | intensifying political divide between blue cities and red states like Tennessee. Over time, |
| 2:01.3 | the states, larger cities, Nashville, Memphis, Knoxville, they have remained defiantly blue, |
| 2:09.3 | even as the rest of the state has gotten increasingly conservative and taken increasingly |
| 2:16.2 | hard-line positions. And that tension is what we saw essentially blow up this week in Tennessee. |
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