World events remind us that there is actually evil out there.

Just horrendous barbarism is still possible.

When a country goes to war, it's not enough to just have the Department of War fight these wars.

It is actually the whole country.

The idea that somehow the American people are not capable of it is the beggars' belief.

I think our biggest risk as a country is suicide, not homicide.

How do we win the AI race, particularly as it moves towards more physical AI and robotics, et cetera?

The things that we did to win in the past, we accidentally turned our back on,

and there's an opportunity to reclaim that with bigger.

In the moment right now, you could say, we need to build more wealth.

We need to do this.

Yes, but the most important thing we need to do is

the companies that won World War II weren't built to win wars. Chrysler made minivans.

Every cereal box an American consumer bought was quietly subsidizing national security.

In 1989, only 6% of spending on major weapon systems went to dedicated defense

contractors. Today, it's 86%. The heretics who built the arsenal of democracy left for

Silicon Valley, and the Pentagon lost its front door. Now, some of them want to come back.

Shamsankar has spent more than two decades at Palantir, building technology for national security. He was commissioned into the U.S. Army

and published Mobilize, arguing that America's real risk isn't China. It's losing the will to

compete. I speak with Shamsankar, chief technology officer

at Palantir Technologies, alongside A16Z general partner, Catherine Boyle. So Catherine, when we

were talking about guests that we had to add on, Sean was at the top of your list. What was that?

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