Going from being good at a sport to then trying to become better and as good as you can be at the sport requires you to recover more.

And that means switching it around from getting up at 6 a.m. to train to staying in bed until 7, 8 a.m.

People are like, well, you don't work hard. You're not getting up at 5 a.m.

But it's another form of working hard.

And that's for me, that's sleep.

And every elite athlete will tell you that that sleep is the most important thing.

Hey, everyone, I'm Jeremy Powers. Welcome back to the Woop podcast. Today, I'm really excited to be

sitting across from Jake Deirden, a former ultra marathon runner with a big passion for functional fitness, who's been

able to combine these passions and become one of the top high rocks athletes in the world.

Jake's only 25 years old, but has already locked up a handful of individual high rocks competition

wins, as well as a handful of doubles wins, including the high rocks world championship title

last summer with the doubles. He's also a high rock master trainer, and he's competed as one of the Elite 15, which we're

going to get all into, which is some of the top high rocks athletes going head to head in their

biggest competitions. So Jake is regarded as one of the top athletes in this new and extremely

fun and fast-growing community of high rocks competition. So, Jake,

welcome to the show. Yeah, thank you for having me on. So I guess right away, the first thing that

we're going to do is go into some icebreaker, some fast break questions. Are you ready for this?

You're just going to answer yes or no or true or false. Okay. Are you ready for this?

So here we go. So first off,

true or false, your average whoop day strain of 15.7 is over 40% higher than the average

25-year-old male on whoop. True or false? True. Good. Jake's strain is 15.7 versus 10.2. Not

surprising. Not surprising. But anyone that's following

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