Inside England with Blackett and Chessum
Rugby Union Weekly
BBC
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
England’s new attack coach Lee Blackett chats to Ashy and Sara from the team’s training camp at Pennyhill Park. He explains why the time with England in Argentina was so special and why he loves coaching so much. But was it a tough decision to leave Bath having just won the treble? Is that the final rejig of Steve Borthwick’s coaching staff? England, and now Lions, lock Ollie Chessum also joins us to chat about his time in Australia this summer and the influence Richard Wigglesworth is already having as defence coach. Plus, Ashy attempts to give his old Leicester team mate a bit of media training.
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| 0:36.6 | Five Lives Rugby Union Weekly. Hey, sir. How are you? You can't say, hey, sir, how are you? That can't start a pod. Sorry. Hey, Sarah. Are you doing? Long time, no, see. I see you've been busy. You didn't get the good game of the weekend, though, unfortunately. The good game was the France-Ireland game. Okay, so you're talking about the Women's Rugby World Cup here. Yes, I have to say, it's been amazing. It has surpassed all of my expectations. I am thoroughly exhausted, but in a really quite wonderful way. But, yeah, I think the game of the weekend, you kind of had to give it to |
| 1:11.8 | Ireland and France. And I think there's a lot more still to come in that one that will no doubt |
| 1:15.6 | be touching on pods a little bit later. Before we get into this, because we've got a lot coming up |
| 1:20.5 | here to cover around England's men here, Ashy. But before we get into it, how is your summer? |
| 1:26.7 | Mixed reviews on that one. I survived, probably the main, and everyone survived. It's probably the most positive vote of it. It was a bit better because the kids are a bit older so we can do a lot more. It's a bit easier. But eventful, as always, my holiday was eventful. I just find that I've had it all my life so I think I've just |
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