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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Inside COP: Fire at COP30 - and the work still to be done

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Persephonica

News, Planet, Business, Society & Culture, Current Affairs, Green, Policy, Finance, Society, Environment, Science, Energy, Climate

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Today was not meant to be this episode.


At around 2pm local time, a fire broke out near the country pavilions, triggering the full evacuation of the Blue Zone. 


As COP30 entered its final stretch, we’d planned to bring you an update on the negotiations, and to share some of the many extraordinary stories of progress and perseverance that surface here every single day.


As of Thursday evening, the fire has been contained, and we understand there were no serious injuries. But there is shock, and there will be aftershocks, for those who were inside the venue. And there is now a heavy burden on the Presidency and the teams working behind the scenes to stabilise and steer the summit through the hours ahead.


For many, today has been a humbling reminder of how quickly the unexpected can unfold. But despite a difficult day, negotiations continue.  And yet, despite an already difficult day, and despite the exhaustion of negotiators who have now been here for weeks, the work continues.


In this episode, we reflect on what unfolded inside the venue.  But we also look beyond it to the incredibly important work that still must be done at COP30, and to what we are collectively called upon to deliver.



This episode includes eyewitness testimonies from Beatriz Beccari Barreto (CDR30 Pavilion), and members of our team


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Lead Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

Planning Producer: Caitlin Hanrahan


Edited by: Miles Martignoni


Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford


With thanks to Groundswell and Global Optimism.


This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Go out! Go out! There is a fire!

0:04.0

Go out! There is a big fire!

0:06.0

Go out! Go out!

0:07.0

Go out.

0:08.0

It was quite scary with the experience, I mean, because the fire started like 100 meters from the CDR 30 pavilion.

0:17.0

And we first heard, like, fire-lound sounds, and then we saw the fire and we saw the smoke.

0:24.9

The evacuation process though was fairly orderly

0:28.0

with the UNF, triple C security staff,

0:30.5

as well as the volunteers pointing people in the direction of the exit.

0:33.9

And I really want to thank them as well as the Brazilian authorities,

0:37.0

especially the firemen, for handling the situation in a very timely fashion.

0:44.7

Hello and welcome to this special episode of Inside Cop.

0:48.8

As many of you will already know, by now, a fire near the country pavilions forced the closure of one of the main

0:55.7

buildings here at the summit. We'd planned to bring you a straightforward update on the negotiations

1:01.7

as we head into the final days of COP 30, but given what's happened today, it didn't feel right

1:06.6

to carry on as normal. So instead, we want to pause and reflect

1:11.7

on the incident itself on how it rippled through the conference

1:15.4

and on what it meant for this crucial stage

1:17.1

of the process we're now in.

1:19.2

Because moments like this can do two things.

1:22.0

They can shake a summer off course,

1:24.1

or they can sharpen the focus on why we're all here

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