Hey everyone, this is moderate rebels. I'm Ben Norton. My colleague, Max Blumenthal and I did a live stream

interview with Daniel Dumbro. He's a Canadian YouTuber who has lived in China for over a decade.

And we talked a lot about the Western propaganda myths targeting China and the

New Cold War. This is part two of our discussion. We debunk more of these new Cold War talking

points. And we also address questions from our patrons over at patreon.com slash moderate rebels.

Now, I do want to say, please excuse us.

We had some internet issues, or I had internet issues in this live stream.

But fortunately, in this segment here, I have tried to edit out all of the technical errors we had.

So without further ado, here's the second and final

part of our discussion with Daniel Dumbrough.

I'll never apologize for the United States of America.

Ever. I don't care what the facts are.

Why are we going to sit down and talk to these quote-unquote moderate rebels?

Who are the truly moderate rebels?

The search for the moderate rebel.

Do these moderate rebels exist?

Moderate rebels.

It's just a clear difference, I think.

Americans don't understand understand they so want to

accuse china of being an empire but i think that colonial history that history of being colonized

instills imbues chinese politics and chinese foreign policy with an anti-colonial

perspective uh and it also leads it to, I think we see

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